H-1B Again Under Fire Ahead of Trump Presidency

H1-B under Trump is under fire

The H1-B will potentially face trouble in a Trump administration.

With Trump readying to take office later this month, policies are being formed and nominations confirmed. How his term(s) will affect immigration and jobs are hot-button topics, and the H-1B visa is squarely in the crossfire.

Last week, a bill titled the “Protect and Grow American Jobs Act” was re-introduced by co-authors Congressman Darrell Issa (R-California) and Representative Scott Peters (D-Calif). The bill severely limits the scope of the H-1B, and raises the minimum salary requirement from $60,000 to $100,000 for anyone utilizing the visa to work in the United States.

As we’ve noted previously, raising the salary bar is designed to encourage companies to hire domestically for all but the most specialized fields or jobs. Trump has spoken out against H-1B, most publicly at a Republican debate last March when he said it was “very, very bad for workers,” and the U.S. “should end it.”

Representative Zoe Lofgren (R-California) suggested recently that the Protect and Grow American Jobs Act “doesn’t do anything” to curb use of H-1B. She accused Issa of protecting his district, which covers San Diego and Orange County, rather than the United States as a whole.

Trump’s choice for Attorney General, Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions, is reportedly onboard with retooling the H-1B program. Some think Sessions and Trump might try to scrap it altogether. “We shouldn’t be bringing in people where we’ve got workers,” Sessions told an audience during a campaign event earlier this year, according to The Des Moines Register. “There are a number of ways to fix it.”

Sessions wasn’t taken to task about H-1B at his Jan. 10 confirmation hearing, although he did express concerns about the number of foreign visas issued for other reasons.

The current H-1B cap is 65,000 foreign workers, with a additional 20,000 going to foreigners who were educated in the United States.

But aggressive visa reform may work against the tech industry. Speaking to The Washington Post, India’s Minister for Information Technology suggested that some companies are simply moving entire divisions abroad rather than wrestle with the visa process within the United States:

Apple is already moving their maps division here [to India], and they’re doing that because we’re producing more G.I.S. talent than anyone else in the world. Ideally, a president of the United States would have a balanced perspective on business, but if he wants tech firms to stay, he should create better job readiness in the United States.

Lofgren plans to introduce her own reform solution, which turns H-1B into a type of lottery. Only those companies that pay the most to H-1B holders will be granted the visa, which is a departure from the current lottery system.

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112 Responses to “H-1B Again Under Fire Ahead of Trump Presidency”

January 11, 2017 at 10:05 am, James Brown said:

Slap a 35% tariff on Apple and abolish h1b visas and associated visas that deprive Americans of jobs and income.

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January 11, 2017 at 10:17 pm, sam sneed said:

the H-1B is GENOCIDE for American Software engineers who get underbid by people who often have fake degrees and resumes and who CHEAT

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January 12, 2017 at 12:42 am, Mark Edwards said:

With over 30 million green cards issues in the last eleven years, over 700,000 H-1B workers currently in the country, an even larger number of L-1’s here, and OPT’s with no limits, reforming the jobs-related visa system is long overdue.

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January 12, 2017 at 6:27 am, H1B(S) said:

Good, send these cowards and opportunists back to fix their own country, especially if their country is India or another Middle East cesspool. Trump and Sessions are trying to fix the mess that the liberals in Sillycon Valley have made. And shut down these fraudulent IT Indian scam consultancies and fraudulent scam recruiters too.

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January 12, 2017 at 6:29 am, Big Dawg said:

This is good news. 94 million people out of the work force. We don’t need to import foreign workers we just need to retrain the ones that are already here.

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January 12, 2017 at 6:46 am, Jc said:

Trump should take a closer look at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Their entire companies are crawling with H1B visa holders they pay less. I was recently let go because I made more than them as a citizen of the US. Seriously? Most people of other races other than India are shocked when they go to work there. It’s Little India.

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January 12, 2017 at 6:55 am, RM said:

More power to Trump. I lost my job to a H1B Visa Engineer. The Tech Engineer who took my Engineering position is from the same village in India, as my then Manager. Gee, nothing wrong there. Kill the H1B Visa program.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:13 am, Out of work tech guy said:

Amen!

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January 12, 2017 at 7:22 am, Pmnwork said:

If the US citizens aren’t job ready then why do the Indians steal our resumes and pursue degrees from US universities.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:24 am, J Black said:

Isn’t dice.com Indian owned and operated?

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January 12, 2017 at 7:46 am, R said:

We all know that it’s a cost incentive.I’ve been at multiple companies where the company directive is to NOT hire us citizens.
Most of the companies I have consulted at have groups in india.Sadly for the most part this lower income skill is inadequate in comparison to higher paid skills in the USA.
There is also a scam where larger companies wish to recruit and put on advertisement near bogus or completely ridiculous advertisements and then apply for visa worker.

IMHO, the visa program should be completely illuminated but companies are allowed to employ from out of country but only directly and not as part of the 1099/h1b scam.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:51 am, Joe Brix said:

Only very large projects can move entirely off shore. Then you hear these large projects fail as all the requirements that need to be gathered and translated gets lost or pieces missed when they’re sent off shore. The current 65K salary requirements are a joke as I’ve seen many H1-B’s making far less. Bottom line: corp america wants minimum wage tech workers. Stop treating us like migrant farm workers and enforce the rules!

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January 12, 2017 at 7:56 am, kp said:

The California, once again, wants to take advantage of other states, and grasp all the talents to their area, whether to keep a talent or not should never only based on salary, but the industry, but the company (how could startups hire so many 100k??), but how many Americans are hired in the company, shame on Calif!

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January 12, 2017 at 8:07 am, Jelly Fish said:

America can only “scrap” the h1-b visa and the workforce that comes with it if they have the right people with the right skill set to replace them. If not, then they will be digging themselves into a shit hole.

Maybe the US should focus on better education or reduce the ridiculous amount students have to pay for higher education (to encourage more applicants) and help people acquire the right skills to take on tech, and health jobs.

A person who studies communication and English isn’t prepared to be a developer or be an RN.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:17 am, Harish Kumar said:

Being born and educated in US I fully support Trumps plan as most of the Indian firms cheat the system badly as I have worked with most of the IT companies. They would keep 1-2 US citizen rest cheap Indian engineers to make fool of the system. Most of the recruiting firms are also Indian firms and they have brought so much corruption in the system. Each H1B needs to be investigated.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:23 am, Monika said:

What about the J1 visa holders that come as trainees but are paid nothing for almost 2 years

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January 12, 2017 at 8:38 am, Cranky Voter said:

The H1B visa is a scam. Hire an H1B instead of training Americans and reduce rates and wages. Companies would rather hire 2 or 3 H1B to replace 1 Highly qualified American. End the program and focus on training unemployeed Americans.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:43 am, Faisal Ladak said:

L1 visas are hurting American jobs more than H1Bs. L1 workers are paid much much less than the H1s plus it is far more easy to secure L1 visas.

First, a solid technical screening system should be put in place to validate the competency of the candidates. We should not rely on the screening done by the petitioners.

Second, a continuous recruitment/survey process must be created that validates that the desired competency is actually “scarce” in USA.

Third, if the work is shipped offshore then a surcharge must be imposed on the businesses to achieve a balance in cost between a US worker and the foreign worker. Funds generate from this should be used for forward technical training of US Citizens.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:44 am, HH said:

The whole “lack of qualified workers” claim is a smoke screen. At least where I was at, the company that was there for the knowledge transfer even admitted that most of the workers were of low technical skill. They’re following scripts, not actually thinking how to fix things. Issues that were resolved in 15 minutes, are now taking hours on bridge calls, for simple problems.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:45 am, Denise Garner said:

Being in the IT industry for many years I have seen many of the IT jobs handed to H-1B individuals. Although many of these people are not as talented as US educated citizens. My last job was with a large telecommunication company and even though I did apply for a position – it was given to someone else – with a H-1B status.

Also, the department was mostly foreigners. And they were actually busing them into the company. Giving them laptops without securities, which they were able to take home. Being an American citizen I would have not been able to such a thing. Management at this company explained that they work off hours. Well that is insane – create 2nd shift and third shift and disallow them taking any data off site.

Also, they are paying more some of us who have been working in the industry for years and years. Also, companies like this one does not conduct sound background checks on the companies they are working with too.

Secondly, they use other American resumes – by changing the person name and replacing with their own. This is another slap in the face to us hard working Americans.

As Corporations who are here especially telecommunications, utility and other public services type companies we need to create a much better moderating system to ensure that cyber security of our nations infrastructure is safe for all Americans. This is very important as we move further into Globalization of the world. ,

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January 12, 2017 at 8:50 am, wyattbiker said:

Ideally, we should have a more aggressive education in this country on technology to provide the talent. Enough lawyers and MBAs. I am against H1-B but we need to provide companies with talent or else they will move. Even tariffs will not work because will make the cost of goods more expensive.

I am glad it is a bipartisan issue.

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January 12, 2017 at 8:59 am, AbcTech said:

Ya’ll pretend like you have all the facts and are making a calculated and reasonable comment. I am sick of these pop comments taking over the Internet and spreading fake information. Anyone who has posted a comment above, tell me 3 things you know a out the H1B program. In fact, tell me 3 major points of Trump’s immigration policy.

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January 12, 2017 at 9:07 am, Learned Idiot said:

All said – it’s all about demand and supply.
If no H1 then who will do that Job.

It’s same in case of Mexicans – who do you expect to do labor for infra development.
If one puts all Americans to replace H1s… who will do the road repairs (that front also Mr Trump wants to throw out Mexicans).

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January 12, 2017 at 9:09 am, Stephen Van Osdell said:

it should’ve been ‘under fire’ long ago! In fact, it should have already been stopped except in extreme cases – like for people with PhD’s doing research with a long resume. And ‘foreigners’ can get small business loans that you and I could only dream about! That is why I can’t run a motel on the interstate and ‘they’ can, and why I can’t run a convenience store, but ‘they’ can!

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January 12, 2017 at 9:10 am, SA said:

Why are there so many indians recruited in the IT firms in US? India is one country which produces engineers in such large numbers year on year. And Indians work for lower payscale. Like someone mentioned here, if all the indians are sent back, US better be ready for another economical crisis. The higher education system is so expensive here that the Americans hardly get to graduate in a Bachelor’s. Without bringing reforms to help Americans get education with reasonable expenditure, it makes no sense to shun H1-B working population from working in the US.

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January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am, 2DegreeSoftwareguy said:

I thought Healthcare IT was invincible. H1-b’s turned my industry upside-down. They cheat on interviews, work in silos, and underbid american it workers. Then laugh at america. Eight years of dancing and singing. Time to get tough. Oh let’s not get started on India staffing or cold calling garbage…

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January 12, 2017 at 9:33 am, Let there be Hope said:

Oddly enough, even our state governments prefer to use these workers. Productivity and effectiveness really needs to be included in the mix of reviews; not incentives to hire H-1B’s.

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January 12, 2017 at 9:36 am, Sorry Software Engineer said:

I have been telling people for years not to go into computer science for this reason. Jobs that are there are lower pay.

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January 12, 2017 at 9:42 am, William said:

99% of “workers” from India LIE. They say they can do anything, even when they don’t understand the question asked. TCS and other Indian companies have completely destroyed the industry, while getting beyond RICH in the process. INDIA IS NOT OUR FRIEND, unless your idea of a friend is to come into your house and slowly steal all your valuables while distracting you and pretending to like you. I agree, it’s a CESSPOOL of a country. IMPOSE A 50% TARIFF ON ANY COMPANY MAKING THINGS OR DOING THINGS IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES. And for God’s sake, please KILL THE H1B PROGRAM ENTIRELY. It’s completely gutted and destroyed our foundation. Like a termite infestation, it has rotted the US from the inside out.

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January 12, 2017 at 9:53 am, Kool said:

You are all immigrants!!! You took everything away from the native American Indians and committed genocide against them and now you are moaning because someone else is taking your jobs, boo bloomin hoo!

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January 12, 2017 at 9:54 am, Robert Goshe said:

India is the biggest manipulator of H1 visa program destroying American jobs with inferior talent. Silicon valley’s landscape is completely changed by Indian workers at all job levels. There need to be a fair and balanced reform in the USA skilled workers Visa program

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January 12, 2017 at 9:57 am, Fred Limmer said:

Current unemployment rate for the US is at 4.7% (you can argue that number all day, but it’s the official number from DoL so that’s what I’m referencing.) Most of that group represents the bottom of the worker barrel. That percentile of our workforce is not capable of doing the work that we’re bringing in H1Bs to do.

For positions that, unlike the job of “President of the United States”, require extensive education, experience, and a high level of skill and ability, we have to have a larger scope than just the 5% of the world’s population that lives in the USA.

US Companies aren’t just competing inside of America, they’re competing in the world economy. We can’t cripple American industry, and our position in the global competitive market by trying to only use our population to fill all possible job positions.

Every company in America that required those workers would simply move to another country that didn’t have that kind of limitation. That wouldn’t benefit anyone.

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January 12, 2017 at 10:36 am, Glenn Allen said:

The H-1B program badly needs reform and ENFORCEMENT. Many of the rules are routinely ignored (if followed maybe wouldn’t be too bad). US citizens are supposed to have preference but in reality it’s the opposite. Ask any recruiter. There is an H-1B rate and a US citizen rate (illegal). It’s obvious when they are looking for H-1B’s. How can anyone contract at $40/hr (less than salary). Some of these folks exploit there own people.
Remember the ‘diversity’ movement? What a sham. Take a look at the IT departments of companies. Is this a diverse team? Does diversity mean no US citizens?
Penalties for violations should be stiff. Officials just look the other way.
Good luck all.
@glenn_a_allen

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January 12, 2017 at 10:43 am, Arun Murthi said:

STOP H1B VISA BUNDLER ABUSE. STOP L1. STOP GOVT. FUNDING FOR COMPANIES MOVING ENTIRE DIVISIONS OVERSEAS. STOP MOVING F-18 AND F-16 MANUFACTURING TO INDIA. BRING JOBS AND MANUFACTURING BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE IS AND CHERISH OUR VALUES.

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January 12, 2017 at 10:54 am, Glenn Allen said:

Last year I had a phone tech interview at Bloomberg. The hiring manager had a fairly strong accent and there were communication issues during the interview. I didn’t get the gig. I’m a senior professional and definitely could handle the job. Another candidate without those communication issues would definitely have an advantage in an interview. This is one reason why these teams start to look the same.

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January 12, 2017 at 11:02 am, JohnDoe said:

First of all, if someone is willing to work for $1/hr and someone is willing to offer them the job, it is their own private business as long as there is no coercion. Take a look at the Constitution for God’s sake! What happened to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

All work visa programs, in addition to minimum wage laws wgich limits the access of foreigners (and American teenagers for that matter) to the labor market, give native workers a huge and UNFAIR advantage already. They are designed by the politicians to gain more votes at the expense of those who don’t even have a voice in this matter.
The fact that some people are still complaining about the situation speaks volumes.

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January 12, 2017 at 11:29 am, SecondAttemptToPostAfterFirstDidntWork said:

I have run a software company. I have 18 years’ programming experience, and am completely self-taught. You don’t need a degree anymore. I have no degree, and my income has exceeded 100K many years ago. When it comes to hiring programmers, all we care about is how much experience you have. I have hired college graduates with no experience. It’s a complete joke. To test their competency level, I always give them some kind of task like: “here is an existing database. Here is a customers table. Just make a web based application that has a customer listing page, a customer detail page, and a customer edit page (or replace customer with whatever widget you like)”. No college graduate (with no work experience) I have hired as an employee or an intern, has ever completed that simple task. So the task ends up being a learning experience for the new hire. Let me state that these are people with Associates, Bachelors, and even Masters degrees. I say to them “I don’t understand, you went to school for 2, 4, 6 years (or longer). What the heck did your professors teach you?” First they tell me that most of their college years were spent learning about things that have absolutely nothing to do with their profession. Next they tell me that they learned how to program in all sorts of different languages, including cobol, fortran, and Qbasic (seriously). Basically the professor gives them assignments out of textbooks. The students are just data entry drones that type in the programs by copying them out of the books. A small army of students in a class, all making the same exact program, line for line, what a joke. So when these people come before me, they expect me to tell them how to write programs, line for line, because that’s what they are used to. They are not used to being given requirements. They have no concept whatsoever about architecture, OOAD, OOP, or best practices. When I say “I need you to build a program that does thing 1, thing 2, and thing 3… oh and by the way, you figure out how to do it on your own”, they look at me like I just told them to teleport themselves to the moon. Let me clarify by saying that these people that have worked for me, are all very intelligent, capable, and highly creative individuals. I humbly admit that many of them are more intelligent that I am, and have become more talented programmers. It’s not their fault that their school taught them nothing useful, that they wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars and many years of their life on nothing. My point is this: Stop wasting your time on school. You want to compete with the h1b people? Stop whining. Step 1, buy a book and teach yourself whatever you need to learn. Step 2, go work for any company that will hire you, even as an unpaid intern if you need to. Step 3, extract every scrap of useful experience you can from that company, update your resume, then move on to the next company. Step 4, repeat. By doing this, you will gain years of experience, and your skillset will become extremely diverse. What, no one will hire you? B.S. Be willing to relocate. Be willing to take contract work. So you could not land that job because you have no experience with a particular technology? Then why don’t you throw up a website that uses that particular technology (now you have experience with that technology)? If you’re unemployed, then you have the time. Get a couple of your buddies together and work on a joint project, on nights and weekends. Make a stupid smartphone app. Who cares if it flops, now you have the experience. In programing, degrees are B.S., and experience is king.
That being said, our great country, the United States needs virtually nothing from the outside world, including IT talent. H1B is a complete screw job put into place by our corrupt government, under orders from special interests. I’m tired of people asking stupid questions like “what would happen if all these foreign workers disappeared”? What do you think would happen, genius? Badass American workers would step up and take the jobs. I did hire just a few H1Bs here and there, and did the whole sponsorship thing. For us, it was just merely a coincidence. The H1Bs we hired were just really the most talented people for the job out of the pool of candidates we were considering. It was a rare thing, and we paid the H1Bs what we would pay any other person. We also outsourced a little bit to India, and had fairly good results. Most recently, with a startup company I’m doing on the side, I have been working with a small dev team I put together in India. We had no choice. Look at Upwork.com. You can hire guys that have 5 years solid, proven experience, for like $10 per hour. No US programmers can compete with that. It’s the only way I can get this thing off the ground. So that means that I’m pumping cash into India, when I should be giving this cash to US programmers. Oh and I can tell you this, I don’t give two @#$% about what kind of college degrees these people have, if any. All I care about is their experience, skillset, feedback from jobs they have worked on, and number of billable hours under their belt. The experience can’t be faked either, because the money ran through upwork.com. That means that I don’t get screwed.
You probably hate me right now. You probably think that I am a hypocrite. I should not be able to do this. It’s just like the tax laws. I pay tax people to make sure that I pay the least amount of taxes possible. Ill dump $10,000 into a project just to avoid paying $1,000 in taxes to the government (out of pure spite), and it’s all 100% legal (believe me it is legal I check and double check the last thing I want to do is deal with the IRS). Just remember, income tax didn’t exist in this country until 1913. I should not be able to outsource to India like this. I should not be able to lower my taxable income like this.
What is the solution? The H1B should definitely go away. As for the thing on upwork.com, I’m not sure what to do about that. But as I said, I shouldn’t be able to do it. What about the taxes? Easy, just have a flat tax with zero deductions, or no income tax at all. Graduated income tax scales, combined with deductions are designed to confuse and screw the average Joe, while allowing a select few to pay virtually nothing. I pray that President Trump will do his best to eliminate as much of this corruption as possible, or at least shed light on it. I pray that he does not screw us over.
P.S. I am sorry for outsourcing to India. I feel a nagging from my conscious. I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach. I feel it’s wrong, but it’s the only way I can get this startup off the ground. I feel like I have betrayed my fellow Americans. I tell myself that I will use the proceeds from this new company to help people, and to help make America a better place, and that it will counter balance my outsourcing. That’s what I tell myself at least.

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January 12, 2017 at 11:57 am, TA said:

As a recruiter for the past 18 years, I have seen our US IT citizens jobs go away in the spirit of “Outsourcing” and saving the client tons of money.
Look at India, US business open offices in order to recapture their US business from losing this business. So the business wins and the US employee looses, time after time.

Thank you Donald…. America First!

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January 12, 2017 at 12:11 pm, H1B said:

Stop complaining about H1B, US don’t even have enough tech resources who can take these job.
1st try to come out of MCD and Tacobell, get some degree and the raise your voice

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January 12, 2017 at 12:29 pm, John Due 2 said:

All Indians or H1b techs working in US almost the salaries 50% off. If anyone hired from US 100% with perks.(401k, Medical,Tax and etc) too many burdens to a company, this is the reason for H1b.Mainly American companies going abroad.

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January 12, 2017 at 12:48 pm, Stephen Van Osdell said:

50% off for Indians? That is simply NOT SO! We have many of the wives here where I work (remember – husband gets H1B means wife almost automatically gets one too! At prime child bearing age no less). The wives look for the ‘secondary’ contract jobs. They are making about the same here (big company) as a native born person would. For example, $32-35/hour contract position here is what they make. I know, I have to hire and train them!

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January 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm, Re posting as it doesn't post, Sorry if you see this multiple times said:

Good, kill the H1B program! Then most of the IT companies will shift their base to India and America will be at loss. Indians pay huge amounts of Taxes to government and US Colleges are making lot of money from students that com every year from abroad. If you really want to save the jobs for American citizens, ask them not to drop out from schools and colleges and work hard like Indians or other immigrants do. Indians are ready to work over time and are committed to work unlike most Americans who demand more money but aren’t ready to work beyond 8 hours even when situation demands. I have seen this as I work in IT. Americans could be talented but its very hard to get work done by an American. Their priority would be to go home and wash their dog’s ass than staying at work place for few more hours. I totally agree there are few companies that are misusing the system but that doesn’t mean you will blame the entire system. You will not kill yourselves when you have a disease but you fight it with medicines. Try to find the corrupt people and save Americans jobs and even jobs of other immigrants who are genuine and talented.Yes, I really wish the H1B program to be killed so that most companies would shift to India and most of the immigrants needn’t stay away from families. Unfortunately, along with few fake people, there are many talented people who are contributing to US economy. I want all these to go back to their countries and contribute there rather than to a country of racists and who had histories of genocide. CEOs of the big companies like Google and Microsoft are Indians and products of prestigious institutes in India. Most of the Indian origin Americans in US today are Doctors and Engineers and Lawyers contributing to the US economy. US people are forgetting that man power is needed for any country to thrive and which US is in short of. Immigrants are an asset to your country.Your politicians know that better which is why they welcome immigrants in spite of what ever you shout or write.

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January 12, 2017 at 1:04 pm, Jhon said:

Phok H1B visa, Educate our kids on how do $hit and hire them rather than hiring a stinky Indian or a communist Chinese kid… do it Drumph, this could be the only good thing you would do for this country !

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January 12, 2017 at 1:15 pm, Stuart522 said:

I work in medical device / pharma field, there are so many Indians that will work for peanuts under cutting American workers, these are 6-figure jobs, and most are young 20-somethings, who know nothing about the job they are hired to do. but they will work for less than qualified Americans….
Get rid of H1-B visas-yes, but also 6 years of working after going to college here, they never leave!

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January 12, 2017 at 1:20 pm, John Due 2 said:

I’m not blaming anyone only I explained the reality in US what is happening to US workres.

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January 12, 2017 at 1:25 pm, IT Professional said:

Yes, stinky Indian or a communist Chinese is definitely better than STD infected, drug addicted, serial killer and most lazy Americans. That is why educate your kids. Who is stopping you? Indians and Chinese are getting paid for their hard work. Ask your kids to learn from us. I wish there is a filter on these comments so that only people with a minimum college degree could comment and not where every drop out would comment who hardly knows about politics or economics or anything about the world. I am only referring to few Americans, not all. I do have some wonderful American friends.

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January 12, 2017 at 2:07 pm, Barbara said:

This is GREAT NEWS! I was laid-off from my job at Kaiser Permanente (Obamacare) and two of my direct report’s (Indian HB-1 visa (making over $100,000 each) took my position. Just not the title.
Kaiser calls it bending the cost curve!

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January 12, 2017 at 2:20 pm, Reality Check said:

1)In the most technologically advanced country with access to the best resources in the world, how many Americans actually graduate from high school?

2)In the richest country in the world, how many Americans are able to afford college and actually attend college?

3)In the country with the best universities, how many freshmen year students choose to major in Engineering, Math or Computer Science?

4) In a country with the best graduate and research programs, how many of these STEM majors go on to do a Masters or a PhD in their chosen field?

5) In a country with the most advanced trailblazing technology companies how many of the kids who got a STEM education choose to do engineering/technical jobs instead of finance, business, accounting kind of professions after graduation?

6) How many of them are willing to relocate to the hubs of technology innovation such as Silicon Valley, New York, Seattle or Austin rather than stay close to home in places such as Columbus,OH, Des Moines, IA, or Kansas City, Mo?

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January 12, 2017 at 2:51 pm, LargeSoftwareCompanyExFlunky said:

Trump is focusing on cutting down the H1b’s, which are capped at 65K/year. This should help a tiny bit, but I haven’t heard anything in the news about the much larger source of job losses … from the larger tech companies that all have Dev Centers in Hyderabad or Bangalore employing 50-60 thousand workers each.

I used to work for Oracle and most of the internal job board postings were for Indian positions. Even if this issue was to become Trump’s focus after the H1B’s, not sure how he would even address it…. it isn’t like he can impose a tariff on goods produced and exported back to the US, since it’s all R&D work & assigning a value will be very difficult.

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January 12, 2017 at 3:43 pm, Scott Lee said:

We should be seeing less of this going forward:
Minimum Requirements Needed for H1-B Visa Sponsorship:
• Four years Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or equivalent
• Able to communicate well both verbally and in written.
• Having good knowledge of one or a combination of the above technologies.
• The candidates who are currently on H4/F1/L1/L2 and seeking H1B are highly preferred.

Please contact to Ravi for more details; 949-531-6124

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January 12, 2017 at 3:53 pm, Stephen said:

Key phrases with VERY broad interpretation -> ‘OR Equivalent’! and ‘having good knowledge of….’. Very Broad and easy to get around. Also, if I post my highly respected resume online, I will get hundreds of emails from Indians representing TATA!

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January 12, 2017 at 3:56 pm, Steve said:

It will be interesting to see what Trump actually accomplishes. Perhaps his import tariffs can be applied to software products that have been off-shored by USA companies. I find agreement with many of the comments already posted here, but I am restraining myself today so that my posting actually gets posted.

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January 12, 2017 at 3:56 pm, james said:

Make America Great Again by sending these all H1b’s back to their countries.

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January 12, 2017 at 3:57 pm, Joe Doe said:

i agree with most of the mud thrown at the H-1B program.Apple,Verizon,
all are killing america.I interviewed for a role and the lady conducting the phone interview barely spoke english.The whole process was a joke.

I did not vote for Donald Trump,Mr Trump makes this happen I will be first to cast my 2020 vote.The folks who are talking about not being able to find folks who are skilled you are looking hard enough,or making the process too layered with questions that has NOTHING to do the the day to day.

I recently worked on a project that was 18 months behind and millions of dollars over budget, The outsourced dev team was the same guys/girls who had worked on the platform in India.I remember having lunch with one of the team members who joked about transparency with the americans.

So we all lose, companies could invest more in the S.T.E.M program on the middle school level and not be so quick to push baby boomers to the door.
Let’s not make this a “them vs us” issue, as a indian born in america i lose too.

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January 12, 2017 at 3:58 pm, Abhinav said:

Might be indian companies or H1 holder get hurt with this.

Me being h1 worker supports reformation in clause

Now IT industry is getting mature and older day by day, during the start of this sector you might be looking for highskill labour, but now trend is changing. Lottery system should have new parameters come up like
Min year of experience should b 7 with Bachelor degree
Or 4 with masters degree

Person working on H1 or L1 should pay 5% extra federal tax to govt.

If you are doing masters in USA, you must score a minimum pointers to apply for H1 lottery, else study and leave.

This way people will understand America is only bringing talent into home not garbage.

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January 12, 2017 at 4:44 pm, Mars2k said:

Wow where to start, I personally have gone into interviews in good faith with good credentials only to face 2 or more H1b visa holders whose only intention was to pass me over for another H1b holder. Big overseas consulting companies shipping these people in from India have undercut my technology sector to the point of taking over altogether. I have seen large firms whose IT departments have become run entirely by foreign nationals.
This visa program has been abused and has been used to drive wages down. These visa holders compete directly with American technology workers for good jobs.
Why aren’t we retraining Americans for these jobs instead of bringing in untrained overseas replacements under H1b?
What about all the family members they bring in that are not skilled?

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January 12, 2017 at 5:00 pm, Kym said:

I want to second what Barbara says about Kaiser with my story I worked on a project for Kaiser 10 years ago on a 2 year project I found a full time job and was there until 2015
Once again on the job market of course recruiters started calling me about jobs at Kaiser but get this the pay rate they were offering was 20 to 30 percent less than what I was making 10 years ago
How is this even possible … I’ll tell you how it seems that most of the tech jobs are being held by H1 and Kaiser offers a low rate and then when people like me will not take the job because of the very, very low pay this they feel is an excuse to make sure that they only hire only H1 candidates
This goes on with a lot of the larger companies and I’ve found that the larger companies are the ones that are looking for that H1 person that they can pay the 20 to 30 percent lower then the market rate
Are these people just as good or better at their jobs?
Most of the time I would say no…I’ve had to correct a lot of mistakes because of the language barrier. I have said before through the years that any employer that can go through their company and find that in any department one ethnic group should seriously fire their HR department. This is America how is it even
possible that you can have entire depts. made up of one ethnic
group?
What I am glad of is that the in coming administration has gotten this dialog going again the H1 program got started with NAFTA and yes that was then and this is now

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January 12, 2017 at 5:07 pm, Mickey White said:

GOOD , end all H1B visas !

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January 12, 2017 at 5:40 pm, JohnDoe said:

I want to ask a question from all the crybabies in the comment section:
If someone offers to sell you a burger for half the usual price with the exact same quality, would you buy it or would you insist that the burger flipper who made the burger should be American? What if the price becomes 1/10th, what if it becomes 1/100th?

Competition is simply the law of the free market. What you are demanding so passionately here is the equivalent of a totalitarian communist government which assigns everyone a value determined by government officials. Thanks God America is not like that despite so many people resenting living in a free country.

So please stop the hypocrisy and confess that you want a soviet Union of America here! You want to get the $80k job just because you are a citizen (which you people apparently think makes you better humans than others) not because you actually can produce $80k of value for the employer.

The forces of the market are simple but there is no evading them. Kick all the H1Bs out (the honest one, I am not talking about the cheaters here) and pay someone $100k to produce $50k value. Who do you think will pay the rest?

You! And your children, and your grandchildren! The already onerous national debt will increase and someday it will break this country’s back.

What America needs right now is an increase in job mobility and a new approach to education. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of $20 bills on the ground no one is looking at and trying to pick up; in IT, in CS, in healthcare, and in other fields.

America needs to aggressively increase the chances of foreigners applying for tech jobs by removing the barriers for honest job-seeking individuals. This will help American workers greatly even in the short run by allowing them to assess their real free market value and choose the best option accordingly.

Also, all minimum wage caps should be removed so the American teenagers can find starting jobs once again. Teenage unemployment in America is through the roof right now thanks to unrealistically high minimum wage laws.

These are the real problems. The rest is just meaningless rants and fake problems which do not exist in the real world.

P.S: I see that so many people are complaining about fake resumes. I totally agree with this point. Many people bloat their resumes or simply lie to get an unfair advantage over honest candidates. But this is another problem and is not related at all to what we are discussing here.

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January 12, 2017 at 5:43 pm, JohnDoe said:

I want to ask a question from all the crybabies in the comment section:
If someone offers to sell you a burger for half the usual price with the exact same quality, would you buy it or would you insist that the burger flipper who made the burger should be American? What if the price becomes 1/10th, what if it becomes 1/100th?

Competition is simply the law of the free market. What you are demanding so passionately here is the equivalent of a total communist government which assigns everyone a value determined by government officials. Thanks God America is not like that despite so many people resenting living in a free country.

So please stop the hypocrisy and confess that you want a soviet Union of America here! You want to get the $80k job just because you are a citizen not because you actually can produce $80k of value for the employer.

The forces of the market are simple but there is no evading them. Kick all the H1Bs out (the honest one, I am not talking about the cheaters here) and pay someone $100k to produce $50k value. Who do you think will pay the rest?

You! And your children, and your grandchildren! The already onerous national debt will increase and someday it will break this country’s back.

What America needs right now is an increase in job mobility and a new approach to education. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of $20 bills on the ground no one is looking at and trying to pick up; in IT, in CS, in healthcare, and in other fields.

America needs to aggressively increase the chances of foreigners applying for tech jobs by removing the barriers for honest job-seeking individuals. This will help American workers greatly even in the short run by allowing them to assess their real free market value and choose the best option accordingly.

Also, all minimum wage caps should be removed so the American teenagers can find starting jobs once again. Teenage unemployment in America is through the roof right now thanks to unrealistically high minimum wage laws.

These are the real problems. The rest is just meaningless rants and fake problems which do not exist in the real world.

P.S: I see a lot of people are complaining about fake resumes which give an unfair advantage to the cheaters over honest job seekers. I totally agree with this point, but this is another problem (partly caused by the current H1B lottery system) and does not directly relate to the moral argument I am trying to make here: Namely, accepting and offering job without coercion is a basic human right, period!

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January 12, 2017 at 7:12 pm, J Dog said:

Companies can easily say Americans are not qualified. I can interview an expert on any technology and have that person fail the interview with a couple kill shot questions. So the question is, what is the true value of being a STEM worker. Why go to school to do a difficult high pressure job, with insane deadlines and stressful production support. You will get low pay, no bonus, and shelved when by the time you are forty.

Get a CPA, become a Doctor or become a Banker. Anything but STEM…

If you needed a Lawyer or CPA to fix a major production problem you would hear about how you needed them to save your business, and how without them your business could not function or would be down for several days…. so…. show me the money would me their answer. Maybe no one here want’s to work their butt off for low wages on a technically difficult high pressure project. Maybe that’s the problem with American workers, they aren’t stupid!

I once had a CPA tell me “I have to continually learn and keep up too”. I said really? Accrual accounting has been around forever, you just need to update yourself on a few rules. At 55 years old, I’ve been through a few pretty big paradigm shifts in my field.

So, I encourage all young kids to think twice before becoming a STEM worker.

Remember, you may love the work when you are learning it. But when you do it for a company they will make you do so much of it in such a short deadline and in a hostile corporate environment, that you will learn to hate what you once loved. Go to where you can make the most money and have the brightest future. It’s work anyway, might as well get paid and have a FUTURE!

CAN YOU NOT SEE IT… ANYTHING THEY SAY THEY FIX WITH THE VISA PROGRAM WILL ONLY BE A PATCH. THE NEXT VERSION OF A VISA PROGRAM FOR STEM WILL BE THE DEATH NAIL. SPEND YOUR TIME TO RETRAIN YOURSELF ON SOMETHING WITH A FUTURE! Because this horse has left the barn my friends.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:23 pm, slim said:

There is an Indian guy I work with. He told me, I hope you think bad of me but my wife has contracted with an Indian consultancy who put her through a 3 week book camp for BA work, and then made up experience on her resume to be able to bill her out. She had zero prior experience, unless you count retail clothing sales.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:33 pm, H1B(S) said:

Only idiots double post. Someone that stupid you can’t take anything they say at face value.

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January 12, 2017 at 7:45 pm, LargeSoftwareCompanyExFlunky said:

Mr JohnDoe,
You are assuming that the world is one large happy family that should operate on principles of producing wherever the costs are the lowest, and should ignore any collateral damage.

Thanks to the tech boom, it’s been possible for US industry & the Indian economy to benefit from creating multinationals subsidiary offices in India, H1b visas & outsourcing. This has created a lot of wealth for US corporations & for India. Unfortunately it’s come at a significant cost to a significant segment of US citizens. Frankly, the Govt serves as the head of the family & it’s purpose is to protect and care for the citizens that elected it. So it makes perfect sense for the Govt here to do a reset and ensure that US Citizens are leveraged for those jobs, despite some potential negative impact to the corporate bottom lines – the US is far enough ahead in innovation that I believe they’ll survive the absence of bright Indian youngsters.

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January 12, 2017 at 10:53 pm, PCash said:

The H1B Visa FRAUD needs to come to an immediate end. It is nothing but a Corporate WELFARE scheme designed to benefit companies by providing an unending supply of cheap labor to undercut American wages. I’ve worked with several H1B visa holders during my 20+ year career in the IT industry. Generally, they were mostly competent developers and decent people. However, they were being held hostage by their employers and simultaneously displacing American workers. This program needs to be PUT TO REST IMMEDIATELY and as bad as this program is, IT AIN’T NOTHING compared to what TPP was scheduled to be…

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January 13, 2017 at 12:22 am, Pinaki Ranjan Das said:

Surprisingly US wants India to sign a massive trade deal to keep F16 production line afloat. This globalization is an ugly tool to rip off most of the working people from their rights – unless the people commenting here realize that we will create more problems than probably solving them. Having said that No Indian who is working at 65000 per year is probably taking any money home so raising this cap is more beneficial to the H1B workers than anyone else. But I am surprised at many of these comments coming from Cali – aren’t these people staunch anti Trump extremists?

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January 13, 2017 at 2:18 am, JohnDoe said:

“You are assuming that the world is one large happy family”

I assume no such thing.

“Unfortunately it’s come at a significant cost to a significant segment of US citizens.”
Wrong! US citizens have benefited greatly from the efficient US economy. There is a reason the US is the world leader in virtually everything.

” Frankly, the Govt serves as the head of the family & it’s purpose is to protect and care for the citizens that elected it. ”
Your statement is contradictory. No one “elects” their father. In communist regimes though, the governments have exactly the role you say it has.

“So it makes perfect sense for the Govt here to do a reset and ensure that US Citizens are leveraged for those jobs, despite some potential negative impact to the corporate bottom lines”

Multiple errors here. First, who are the corporates? Corporates are us! Hurting the corporates hurts us, indirectly. Second, giving someone $80k while they produce only $50k value means $30k waste. You might say: “Well, it is fine. An American has a job.” But have you ever thought about the tremendous lost opportunity cost here? That wasted $30k could be used to build roads, schools, fire stations, universities, factories, you name it. Now it will go to China or Mexico buying cheap toys for a happy American family, at least for a while. Third, it is not government’s job to train citizens for a specific job. It is every individual’s personal responsibility to follow her dream with hard and honest work. Asking the government to exclude your neighbor, taking his money, use that money to train you, and then hire you while you may or may not be ready for the job, is not different than robbing that poor worker yourself. Just because you wish your government does it for you, doesn’t make your position less immoral.

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January 13, 2017 at 2:57 am, John Garner said:

I see a lot of comments where people are saying 1 american was laid off and 2 or 3 Indians were hired as replacement. For a company it makes no economic sense to do that (especially for a capitalist society like ours). Also why would anyone want to extend that charity to someone who cannot speak proper English and cannot relate to.

Bottom line companies will hire for talent and wage and keep you only if you are adding value. If Indians lie on their resume (which unfortunately some do) then they would be fired for not producing the desired output. I have managed large teams & am business owner and can tell you if someone does not deliver I will not keep them around since my company loses reputation & money.

I know a lot of immigrants who are willing to work long hours to succeed. Bottom line they are hungry to succeed. Like another business owner published in his post pick up a book and read & deliver. It makes me very sad to see my fellow Americans suffer but unfortunately there are no short cuts in life. Deliver or Perish is the philosophy which can help us survive in the job market – IT or otherwise.

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January 13, 2017 at 4:54 am, H4 Visa said:

You all do not know the bigger scam of H-4 visa, which is a dependent visa. Government passed an executive order last year that provides EAD (employment authorization document) to H-4 visa holders. There is no minimum salary requirement for these visas. Spouses of H-1B visa holders are now able to work easily. Guess what they are working for? $20 as java developer and $15 per hour as a QA analyst.

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January 13, 2017 at 5:21 am, Edward said:

Let me translate what JohnDoe is trying to say in a few sentences.

“I would rather bring on H-1B developers so my bottom line fills my pocket with Ben Frank’s. U.S. Citizen developers should take one up the Hershey or bow down to your overlords and compete with H1-B wages (usually 40-50% less). I will make up salary values and how I tell myself at night paying 80k for a U.S. citizen is bullocks when I can snag up 2 Indians”

See JohnDoe, the logic you fail to understand is that there are many born and raised in the U.S. developers that are superior to H-1B dev workers. They’re a modern day version of the Asian sweatshop worker but just in the tech industry. I’ve had to sit in many technical interviews for Front-End positions and I can say with a straight face the majority couldn’t even answer some basic JavaScript questions; What is currying (no pun intended) in JS and code an example of how you’d use one.

The few that slipped through the cracks were some of the worst Front-End developers who had no interest in quality but would use the language barrier as their defense. To make it even worse most didn’t know the difference between a pseudo-class and pseudo element, something a Jr Front-End should easily know. The quality of Markup, CSS and JavaScript they write were full of bugs and usually ended up having to be rewritten.

Part of me doesn’t want to blame the H-1B’s but when they lie out of their arse and make claims on their resume we can’t verify, sorry time for a reset. I know may developers over the years that are very talented and lost their jobs due to 1) Tech jobs shipped to India or 2) Let go and replaced for cheaper labor. I know #2 for a fact after seeing how much they were billed by contracting companies or how much they paid to sponsor an India (origin) developer.

The quality to salary ratio when company U.S. developers to H-1B’s isn’t even close for the most part. Sure there are some hopeless U.S. developers but the H-1B pool significantly outweighs those U.S. devs when it comes to qualified. I know that’s a tough pill for you to swallow JohnDoe but this is for “real world” experience that has been working in the dev/design space since the late 90s. So go ahead and keep defending your weak talking points, it’s time for Sen Sessions to put an end to H-1B till we can sort out our unemployment issues in the tech space.

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January 13, 2017 at 5:25 am, LargeSoftwareCompanyExFlunky said:

Mr JohnDoe,
You missed the main point I was trying to make – The “Corporates” are not every person in the US. Donald Trump was elected because of the extreme inequality of GDP distribution in the US that’s resulted from Globalization. There are two ways to improving this distribution – In our recent election, Bernie Sanders represented one way, which is closer to the solution you’re talking about & Donald Trump represents the other.

I personally preferred Mr Sanders approach to Mr Trump, as it would have been more “efficient” (as you point out), but it’s Mr Trump who was elected. Again, as you correctly point out, Mr Trumps approach will, in the longer run, lower the productivity and efficiency of US Corporations. However it’s a cost the country has voted to undertake & I believe our innovation economy is robust enough to withstand the impact.

What’s happening here (and in other countries like the UK) isn’t new – similar populist movements took place in 1900-1914, when free global trade ( after the industrial revolution) created a lot of wealth plus extreme inequities in wealth. This lead to worker unrest all over Europe. Eventually governments were forced to create trade tariffs, worker protections & welfare laws to help equalize wealth distribution enough to quell the revolts.

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January 13, 2017 at 7:25 am, Stephen said:

First, before ANYONE can take you seriously, you need to DROP the ad hominem attacks on EVERYONE who doesn’t agree with you. That tells ALL of us a LOT about what kind of person YOU are.

Yes, I disagree with you. And I disagree with your false assumptions, apples and oranges examples and comparison, innuendos, and your agenda. It is obvious you have one.

Tell me, do you think Indians would be upset if everywhere they went, Americans were coming over and buying their land, getting loans from their government to do it with, getting jobs that THEIR children should be getting, and flipping hamburgers for them? You darn right they would be pissed off! We have a sovereign country named the United States of America, and we have citizenship (like what my foreign wife got after coming her due to marriage to me and waiting for 3 years). We also have a culture which you fail to consider! Our culture is not based on sarah’s and Hindu multiple armed Gods that even Indian people (98% of them) don’t have a clue about! We spend thousands educating our kids only to have the creme de la creme of India come here and undercut them and knock them out of jobs and training. Tell me, in your eyes, is it REALLY because they can work cheaper (not really the case anymore) that you think they should be able to come here or is it because that you simply think that anyone from anywhere should be able to go any darn where they please and work if someone will hire them? Aren’t you discriminating against people who can’t speak English? Wait a minute! That should be able to come here TOO right? We can not only train them on the job but teach them English so they can take our jobs! I thought of that before you did. I’m sure that would be alright with you. But, we do live in a sovereign country, with borders, and with rules. Just because Congress passes stuff doesn’t make it right! They are all up there with their hands out for them and their friends. The heck with India! Let the brightest STAY THERE and FIX their own country before coming here and overpopulating and changing ours. I like our European culture we have now, thank you very much!

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January 13, 2017 at 9:29 am, LargeSoftwareCompanyExFlunky said:

Stephen,
I agree with several of your points, but on your last point… I have to say that I really enjoy some of my very bright Indian and Chinese immigrant friends, love the great job that Satya Nadella & Sunder Pichai are doing at Microsoft & Google, love Indian food & the diversity that immigrants brings into this generally very fair minded & open country..

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January 13, 2017 at 12:58 pm, J Dog said:

John Garner said:
I know a lot of immigrants who are willing to work long hours to succeed. Bottom line they are hungry to succeed. Like another business owner published in his post pick up a book and read & deliver. It makes me very sad to see my fellow Americans suffer but unfortunately there are no short cuts in life. Deliver or Perish is the philosophy which can help us survive in the job market – IT or otherwise.

From you post above: No No No.
This is only because the standard of living where they come from is so low anything is better. Now they are driving down the U.S. Developers standard of living. And, it’s because of greedy people. Screw all, just give my a big return on my little business venture. How dare you insinuate we are lazy and will not or cannot lean. I cannot come near making the money I made twenty years ago…. yes that’s twenty years ago. Not stagnant, less money. I know many very very bright people who have gotten out of this business. Again why did they get out, because they are bright. They moved on to more lucrative opportunities. I too have had several business in the software area. Trust me, this Visa issue is not going away. The average developer has now been reduced to blue collar status. And all thanks to greed. And a willing immigrant that will undercut you wage!

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January 13, 2017 at 1:22 pm, JohnDoe said:

@Edward,

Your argument is a total strawman. So you interviewed a foreign candidate who did not know what currying is and I assume you did not hire him. I have seen American developers who had not even heard about Bootstrap or the CSS framework concept in general! So what? None of this in itself is grounds for rejecting a candidate. There are many factors to consider. I am arguing that “place of birth” should not be one them.

The other commenter is babbling about culture. What this has to do with culture? By the way, if limiting hiring foreigners is such a great idea, why not take it one step further? Why not ban hiring from out of state? Won’t it drastically increase local software developers’ standard of living?

@LargeSoftwareCompanyExFlunky:

I don’t care about politics. I am not living in a fantasy world. I know there is little chance that all work barriers will be removed for honest job seekers. That’s a pity, but that’s the world we live in. I just hate hypocrisy. Pretending that robbing others of their righteous income and opportunity just for political purposes somehow benefits America or the poor in America is outright hypocritical. I support 100% cracking down on cheaters and frauds in H1B and other visa programs. But I am certainly against any measure that limits the chances of honest hard working people from getting a job. I am definitely for reform. But I would like to see a reform that decreases the chances of cheating and freeriders and increases the chances of honest and hard working people.

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January 13, 2017 at 2:21 pm, IT Engineer said:

Good, kill the H1B program! Then most of the IT companies will shift their base to India and America will be at loss. Indians pay huge amounts of Taxes to government and US Colleges are making lot of money from students that com every year from abroad. If you really want to save the jobs for American citizens, ask them not to drop out from schools and colleges and work hard like Indians or other immigrants do. Indians are ready to work over time and are committed to work unlike most Americans who demand more money but aren’t ready to work beyond 8 hours even when situation demands. I have seen this as I work in IT. Americans could be talented but its very hard to get work done by an American. Their priority would be to go home and wash their dog’s ass than staying at work place for few more hours. I totally agree there are few companies that are misusing the system but that doesn’t mean you will blame the entire system. You will not kill yourselves when you have a disease but you fight it with medicines. Try to find the corrupt people and save Americans jobs and even jobs of other immigrants who are genuine and talented.Yes, I really wish the H1B program to be killed so that most companies would shift to India and most of the immigrants needn’t stay away from families. Unfortunately, along with few fake people, there are many talented people who are contributing to US economy. I want all these to go back to their countries and contribute there rather than to a country of racists and who had histories of genocide. CEOs of the big companies like Google and Microsoft are Indians and products of prestigious institutes in India. Most of the Indian origin Americans in US today are Doctors and Engineers and Lawyers contributing to the US economy. US people are forgetting that man power is needed for any country to thrive and which US is in short of. Immigrants are an asset to your country.Your politicians know that better which is why they welcome immigrants in spite of what ever you shout or write.

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January 13, 2017 at 4:43 pm, TheH1B(S)Fallacy said:

I spent time at an India scam consultancy in Concord, CA a scam outfit called Perfict Global. There were 13 Indians, 1 Russian, 1 Canadian, and 1 African in our “batch” and 1 American, me. At the time I was unaware of the fraud and scam that was taking place until the 6 weeks of training was over and they started “marketing” us lol They told/had us all create fake resumes and said they would proxy for us and help us in interviews through the use of Google Docs, or taking phone calls for us, well couldnt do it for me since i didnt have an indian accent.

So getting to the lies part, our 6 weeks of training turned into 8 – 10 years of experience on our CV’S/resumes. We were told to lie and pick compaies we liked in different sectors and say we worked at them for various projects and filled our resumes with technology keywords. I left the program after I found out dishonest and fraudulent these Indians were, everyone left matter of fact…except for the 13 Indians (only 1 was competent in IT since his former job in India was IT – he had 3 years of experience), who scammed the system perpetrated fraud and cheated to get hired (which wasnt very hard since most of the HR and interviewers were current or former India H1Bullshiters), as this is apparently commonplace in their society and minds (lying, cheating, stealing, etc.)

So yeah I feel I am experienced enough to say all but 2% of the H1BSER’S that come over here actually know anything and are exceptional at what they do. They rest are liars and cheats, and the more I look at the United States Congress, Senate, House, and Corporate CEO’s the moreit makes since that this type of cheating is encouraged and ignored. It seems only a violent revolution will turn the tide of bullshit in this country.

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January 13, 2017 at 5:27 pm, AmyGen said:

H1B quote should be increased, stay updated and stay competitive . thats only solution stop crying and whining. create your own business and thrive, who is stopping you.

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January 14, 2017 at 5:08 am, Sim said:

H1B workers are the reason for rising US economy. They are the most reputed honest hardworking and skillful workers who pay their taxes Much much more then the major masses of people in USA. They have made the government rich and also brought in quite a good amount of technology to the nation.. anyone who here is complaining about H1B are merely those people who have failed in their careers and probably are themselves not that hardworking/educated… USA is a nation where no talented person is jobless even a maid would earn.. so please get educated and complete college go for higher studies Nd then talk.. half of the American students are busy earning at Walmart/McDonald’s/Burger King or any local stores where so called Indian kids are busy studying 15 hrs a day.. so there is no comparison on the hard work these kids put in to build their career and US
Government just accnowleges these people and their hardwork. H1’s should actually be considered more then citizens.

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January 14, 2017 at 7:57 pm, SK said:

[Trying again to post – apparently failed first time, apologies if I mistook the latency and have repeated the post]

I am a U.S. citizen and was an H1-B decades ago. I hate it when Indian companies finagle undeserving people into positions that displace the American employee. So I definitely support the reform of the H1-B laws.

But having been one, I will tell you the way to reform it. Currently, the H1-B’s mobility is severely constrained. Since only the green card emancipates the H1-B serf, and since the green card takes forever, it is really involuntary servitude until then. Truth be told, if I were in an H1-B employee’s shoes today, I would walk away from the U.S., and I actually advise other H1-B employees to do the same, since the significant decisions in life are put on hold for sometimes over decades. A U.S. residency or citizenship is not worth decades of a creative, driven person’s life. Nothing is.

The cleverest way to reform it is to emancipate the H1-B employee as soon as he or she gets the H1-B. The corporate lobbies will not like it at all, but if that is done, the cost-cutting employers will have no incentive to hire undeserving candidates on the H1-B. If they low-ball a deserving candidate, this person will leave at the first opportunity. You will not hear any whining from either the H1-B employees, or the Indian government. The only whining will be from corporate lobbyists.

That said, I sense that for some of the people posting here, the grouse is not just the fact that they have seen undeserving people displace American citizens. It seems to be something else that is not politically correct to say openly, but masquerades as righteous indignation. I will let that slide, and point out a few things I have seen in my experience in software.

Forget currying, I have had a VP (Caucasian American, for those India-bashers) tell me to not expect programmers to know recursion. I recall telling him that such people should not be in programming at all. I have worked with fresh graduates from one of the most envied U.S. colleges who did not know how to compute the standard deviaion without using Excel’s built-in function. Both were U.S. citizens and one was Caucasian. A friend of mine exchanged notes with me and lamented how even students from the Ivy League schools he worked with had a superficial understanding of some key concepts. When I was young and innocent consultant, I made the mistake of writing a simple formula with the summation sign on a whiteboard, and the clients (all Caucasian, no dots-Indians, no feathers-Indians) almost tuned me out for good.

You want to get rid of H1-B’s for good? Make them unnecessary. My children go to school here, and with the standards of math and science I see, little wonder the median graduate’s intuition in math is woefully inadequate. But fear not, I see Indian standards dropping too, and my friend originally from China tells me that he sees the same patterns there as the countries finally recover after centuries of depradation. And all these people try to become first-line managers as quickly as they can so that they can stop hands-on work. Coming back to the U.S. K-12 system, bump up the standards and you will eliminate employment based immigration over the next couple of decades. The common core is likely to do just that, but the means of delivery is the same teaching staff, which dents its effectiveness.

Meanwhile here is another problem. I met another kid from India recently. He is working but wants to get out and start a company. He is not trying to take a job but create many. He can’t. Not until he gets a green card. He won’t get one for years, may be decades. I advised him not to put his life hold but to get out. His dad who runs a business in India wants him to return too. An emancipation for the H1-B holder in his case would result in net new jobs. That should please everyone, except perhaps the person by name Stephen who probably would prefer that it be done by a European (hey, if he can generalize to such an extent, I can to some!)

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January 15, 2017 at 10:23 am, John Deltuvia said:

There are legitimate cases for H1-B – and not just in tech. Several years ago, classical stonecutters were brought over from Italy to help with the Cathedral of St. John the Divine in NYC.

What needs to be changed is the barriers to H1-B:

– it should be self-funding. Currently, fees are returned if a company loses the ‘lottery’. Wouldn’t you love to get your lottery money back? The fees for application need to be much higher and non-refundable.

– The Federal Government should create an H1-B application site, which should show all applications from the past 3 months on a rolling basis. US Citizens would be permitted to apply for those positions. The Government would maintain records of rejections and the reasons why; no foreigner would be permitted to obtain a visa if they did not exceed the citizen application. This would discourage companies from applying for an H1-B unless the skill really did not exist in-country. If a citizen applied and qualified for tasks but the salary was not agreeable, before a visa were to be issued the citizen would be offered the job at 120% of the salary being owed to the foreigner.

– The government would charge an annual fee (self-funding, to be determined) for inspectors to conduct yearly desk audits of all H1-B positions, to ensure that the skills not possessed by citizens are really needed. If a desk audit fails, the visa would be immediately cancelled, along with all other H1-B visas at that company, and the company would be barred from the H1-B program for three years. Appeals would be directed administratively to a board in the Department of Homeland Security (responsible for visas), which decision would be final. There would be no recourse to the judiciary; any company obtaining an H1-B visa would agree to these terms beforehand. This would ensure that matters could not be dragged out for years in the Courts.

– Employers could list jobs on the website for a nominal fee, say $100, so that they don’t waste money on an H1-B application when they just can’t find the skills in-country but they have some idea that they may be out there. This would also discourage use of the H1-B visa, and speed employment of Americans.

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January 16, 2017 at 1:02 am, David said:

Maybe this is a repeat, look up fwd.us and notice that Gates, Zuckerberg and more IT billionaires are behind it… H1b Visa Lobby Group, acting like they are pro immigration for the sake of it…my last two employers are Indian owned corporations that place consultants all over the world. If you can’t beat them…

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January 18, 2017 at 3:53 am, DOn Joe said:

So happy to see an endless scroll of Donald supporters whining like little girls 😀 keep waiting until he keeps all his promises and make your country great again while you sit on your A and whine and whimper. Or accept global markets and do something to be competitive and live like a man. *ssies.

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January 18, 2017 at 4:07 am, Raj Devan said:

Sure he’s going to fix it all and keep all his promises while you sit and whine and whimper like little girls. Or accept global markets and compete and live like other men. Men who work hard and travel half a world sacrificing a good life to live among pathetic characters like all Donald supporters here. Just because your land happens to have some prosperity at this moment. Be proud my friends, it is all because of your greatness or of your forefathers. If you fear domination realize the problem is within you. Do something to face it not running away and waiting for your savior to cut off h1b first, then what close airports?

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January 18, 2017 at 8:32 am, Steve said:

Amy, your post above reminds me of the ‘smart’ advice given to us parents in the 70’s and 80’s when my kids were small. When we complained about all the ‘filth’ being broadcast on TV we were told ‘hey, your TV has a knob! Get off your rears and just change the channel!’. That was that side’s solution. Well, it wasn’t quite that simple. Parents continued to be bombarded by a constant barrage of garbage and peer pressure on their kids everywhere that ‘policing’ everything soon was well outside the capability of ANY parent to monitor and control (like back when there were only 3 or 4 channels)! You see, the side which was working FOR the degradation of our culture was the same side giving what they knew was futile advice!

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January 18, 2017 at 3:05 pm, Ren said:

Blah blah blah

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January 18, 2017 at 8:25 pm, H1bFraud said:

H1b visas wre used to fire me and about 125 of my friends and co-workers. The entire system is a fraud and a front to funneling an even greater number of jobs offshore. They are not more skill or in most cases even qualified to take your job, but they threaten with no severance and no medical if you don’t cooperate. They record all your work and keystrokes for as long as they want, they steal your lifetime of documentation. They use the visa’s as a front while there main intention is to just steal any knowledge they can and shift as much work as possible offshore. When it done, there are not many good good available, so despite having solid skills there is no where to get re-hired because this practice has been going on too long.

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January 19, 2017 at 12:40 pm, IndianWhoSeestruth said:

As an Indian who works in the IT field, I myself am a victim of the VISA fraud that is happening in US. When I started my career in 2004 in India, I worked with some US returned Indian individuals who had spent about 10-12 years in the US in a prime technical company that verified RTL simulation for VLSI products. They were people managers with zero technical skills but were well reputed in the US company for some reason. I digged deeper and then I found out that these were people who had no STEM education, but used some headhunting outsourcing fraudster who fill in resumes with fake stuff and entered the companies in loads in the US. So this was way back in the lat 90’s. By this time in the 2017s they have already sucked high and dry the whole system to the point where my American friends repeatedly tell me that their parents advise them against starting work in the tech industry. Let me tell you that some of the best engineers are I know are still Americans and not Indians. Let me tell you some of the secrets that Americans don’t even know. India is a large country and it is not like more Indians are smarter or an average Indian in smart. So by law of averages a country with 1.3 billion people with reasonable access to education do come up with atleast 10K young children per year who would easily score around 130+ in IQ scores and definitely there are cream of the crop here too, where a few (may be 100) per year who would call, true geniuses. There are some colleges in India which are extremely difficult to enter ( 300:1 chance of getting in ). And these 2000-3000 students used to be the cream that used to enter the US since the 70s. That is the crop that you see in CEO , COO positions across the country today. They rose through their brilliance,merit and hardwork. But in the 90s with the IT boom, it became very easy for some one to cook up resumes and enter companies in the US mainly because within US there are stringent requirements before some one is marked as technically competent. Many non collegiate, small time training institutes popped up in India that made you a so called Java , MFC expert in 3-6 months. I know of people who committed that they are experts in Oracle whereas they had no basic idea about relational database theory at all. Some of them actually opened the books for the first time in the plane they were flying in. For some, the plane ride, the book was both a first time opportunity. They never got time to study in the ruckus it is to get a passport and VISA in India once their job posting was finalized. Then after this phase, the so called cheaters entered the US IT system and found out the salary structures, the contractor process and started to open a whole blown out industry where they got contracts at underbid prices against a genuine US competition. They opened sweat shops in India to get things done with salaries as low as 100$ a month. ( given that an IT engineer in India works 30 days and more than 10 hours a day ), that is less than 30 cents per hour. This is still fine, since you might know that the clothing line you wear and the phones you buy all come from these so called sweat shops. It is an entire industry. But then started the next big big scam and that is the H1 fraud. It was at one point of time so easy to get an H1 that people with green cards here started opening a mom and pop kind of consulting firm. You might enter a random strip mall across the US and find an one door Indian consultancy with a single person in the office or at times, no one. Example, a couple has gotten the green card over a period of some years. Now both of them have the right to open an LLC. US is one of the easiest places in the world to start a company. Actually you can progmatically fill up a few documents and you are done. So, now the husband and the wife both opened a company in the name Xtech and Ytech. Now they advertise in India that if you were to pay them some amount they will create a H1 opening for you and bring you in the US given the condition that you will have to find a job here with a H1 transfer in the first few months. After that an additional 6 months of your salary or 12 months of half salary that you earn from this second company will have to be given to them. Students from reputed institutions mainly crack GRE/GMAT with stellar scores and they usually make it to Carnegie/Harvard/Princeton but the guys whom US definitely does not want eat away into the system using these back doors. For the VISA interview in India it is sometimes difficult to identify whethere a person poor in English is the next Sundar Pichai or a fraudster. A technical screening of the highest level needs to be in place. Now many such mushroomed companies are running in parallel with large companies from India too. The companies that came into the limelight during the Disney employee fiasco are just some of them names. A term abroad is considered a perk in India and many employees are only working in a hope of getting an US posting. Now for a single job opening for lets say a DBA expert, they randomly file 5+ H1s for the single role and who ever gets the lottery gets to come over here. There is no requriement matching other than the fact that the person will eventually come here and somehow by hook or crook and by the skin of their teeth run the order of the business and due to lack of manpower in the US the managers will make do with someone spending 24 hours in the office. Once these processes were set up, the next ,level of fraud started to happen. Once inside the system, these people started to convert the H4 wives to low order sub 40K a year salaries. How that works is, these housewives who hardly had any retail clothing experience, will come to office and leave in the evening but get their work done overnight by their husbands. Who would not want an additional 40K $ with a work experience for naught. Trust me, biggest of the biggest names in the industry is suffering from this plight. They are filled with vendors who have no ability at all to be a computer engineer( even the top 4 biggies in tech have loads of such vendors). Then eventually, these people take up management positions since they are not technically competent but are available to the management 24 hours a day and respond well to emails. Despite their ability to take critical calls in the core technology these people managers popped up every where. Next started the L1 visa abuse. The green card channel to US is easy with L1 with the EB1 category. You need to be in a management position for 1 year abroad for a US company. Trust me this is a difficult thing to if you are working for Microsoft or Google where to become a manager you will need to show exemplary expertise. These small headhunting companies with some 50 odd names to their rolls ( sometimes these are cooked up too ) will give you a so called management resume for a position in Dubai or Singapore or in some village in India and expedite your Green card process in the US. Then, there was this whole fraud business of the testing tools and testers in the industry. Thousands have milked millions in the process and I have seen people with test credentials in their resumes where they never wrote a line of code and they will just use a product like a non technical user and these fraud companies would milk random amounts sine no self respecting computer engineer will want to only test a product. Now, if you ask me as an Indian what have I done to stop this. Let me tell you, I have already signed numerous petitions proposed by other Indians who are suffering because of these H1/L1 visa fraudsters, who are bringing a bad name to our country and are not the true representative of merit. It is no longer a brain drain from India, it is the drain that you are getting. One big thing to notice is that 90% of the Indians who are invovled in these activities belong to a state in India called Andhra Pradesh. Not all the folks from there are doing this, and they do produce some brilliant engineers like Satya Nadella of Microsoft, but definitely there are others from their state who underreport tax, evade housing policies, rent in the name of 2 and keep 10 hidden roommates, they are everywhere manipulating the system crazy. I am sorry as an Indian and I would urge every one to share this as many times as possible.

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January 22, 2017 at 11:39 am, H1B4all said:

Some facts for the fellow H1B haters:

1) H1B is limited to 65.000 of people per year, +20000 of grads with Master degree. US population is 318.900.000. Do the math, if you can. If you can’t – I’ll help. It’s 0.2% of people. Chances that you will meet an H1B worker on street are close to zero, if you’re not in SFBA or NYC.

2) Spouses of H1B are getting H4B visa, that does not allow them to work. Never. They don’t even have SSN (but they do have ITIN, because US wants them to pay taxes if they have some side or passive income from their country).

3) H1B is temporary, for up to 3 years, in most cases it is issued for 1-2 years only. Then you can renew it. ONCE. So it means you can stay in US for 6 years, and then MUST go home.

So, to wrap it up – you, little girls, are complaining that someone comes to the country with the family, works for lower rates (still has to pay the same bills as you do – but mommy and daddy didn’t left them a house or an apt to live in and play the video games), have no friends or connections, face all kind of shit from people like you – and you are still not satisfied.

Perhaps you deserve your asses to be kicked out of the workplaces you occupy, because you worth nothing – you can’t even go to USCIS website and read the damned page that defines who and how qualifies for H1B visa.

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January 23, 2017 at 8:30 am, Trumposphere said:

I promise you you would never kick our asses. You see, every time there is a world war, we are leading the charge and doing the conquering. That gives us the right to demand more. Unlike other countries that were conquered by a couple boatloads of British soldiers, we ran off the Brits as soon as we chose. Not through peaceful resistance, but through mass violence. The American population may be jacks at many trades, but if a good war comes along we play our Ace in the whole. We are the absolute masters of war. When we get mad entire continents pay the price. So be careful about calling Americans out; we are only too happy to conquer and make the conquered do our work for us so we can be lazy and have fun until the next Great War…America IS War. God Bless America!

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January 23, 2017 at 8:39 am, Trumposphere said:

Why should American compete as equals with nations we could easily conquer? Russia and China are the only close competition we have, and honestly with our swarm drones coming on line we have no equals. Soon we will be able to depopulate an entire nation and disable their nukes with nano drones in a matter of minutes. I think we should not play so nice at the negotiating table. America’s manifest destiny is to rule; nothing has changed except we became more politically correct when saying it. With Trump in the White House it is time that the term Manifest Destiny be returned to the popular lexicon.

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January 23, 2017 at 8:44 am, Stephen said:

Hey ‘HIBFORALL’,

Try to have a civil discussion and you roaches always come out of the baseboards! But, to take your points, one at a time…

1. I don’t live in SFBA or NY (Thank God!), but in a major city in the Midwest. And the Indians are ALL around me on the street, in the stores, and especially at my work! I have friends who are Indian and they tell me how the system is ‘milked’ all the time. So take your ‘number’ and shove them. All I need to do is go to Costco on weekend and I have to remind myself I’m not in New Delhi.

2. This is totally false because I have Indian women all around me at my company who have H1B visas and so do their husbands! So you are totally lying or mistaken here. Besides, even if what you say were true – do those couples in prime child bearing age stop having sex while they are here? Ever heard of anchor babies? Evidently not.

3. As I said about, what is on paper, and what is reality are 2 different things! If laws written down were followed, we wouldn’t have the problems we are having today!

4. Your wrap up isn’t even worth my time to fool with it is so vitriolic and full of hate and speaks for itself.

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January 23, 2017 at 12:28 pm, IndianWhoSeestruth said:

hi Stephen,
I completely agree with you. I am sorry ( from the bottom of my heart ), as an Indian, since I personally see the systemic as well as systematic abuse of these visas. India might not be the only country doing it but they do lead it from the front. H1BForAll does not understand the fact that even if 30K falsified H1s and another 40-50K falsified L1s enter the system, over the last 10 years, that is significant given that they bring their families along with them.
By the way, Stephen, one community of Indians that are heavily involved in this are the Telegu community. Trust me they are 90% of the Indian populace. It is the single direct purpose of their lives to come to the US. Do you know the reason? They get humongous amount of money as dowry(bribe) when they marry if they work in the US. That money is in dollar millions most of the time. So the single objective of the Telegu young man is to come to the US and that destroys their moral radar since with a tunnel vision they come here. They dont want to assimilate. They create falsified resumes, they get help from the entire community if needed. I personally know of cases where Telegus have denied accidents after the reaching home, left apartments without paying due, put in more people than they should, created false resumes for their wives, overoccupy apartments and under report. They have been caught watching multiple movies at the price of a single ticket, duped women here, duped businesses. Sorry for the rant. But it is entirely true

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January 23, 2017 at 1:09 pm, Stephen said:

IndianWhoSeesTheTruth – You sound like a VERY honorable man! You are welcome anytime!! btw, my wife is foreign and is from Ukraine – I know how the system works (or doesn’t work as the case may be). We run into Russians frequently who are here on the infamous ‘Student Visa’, yet they aren’t even going to school. We just roll our eyes.

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January 25, 2017 at 2:52 am, wonderKid said:

Yes, all you folks commenting are right. I am from India, I have friends in US who did masters in Civil engineering and started working in IT. He knows shit about computers or software development. He is struggling but the consultancy hired him keeps him on contract basis and renewing it every 3 months. Now its been 5 years he is been there and another 2-3 years he will be eligible for green card. Once that happens, you won’t be able to do anything. Good luck America!

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November 06, 2017 at 12:57 pm, Janice said:

Corporate Greed is what this is. Americans have nothing against you besides taking American positions. I hope you can see this? Go back to your country and build your own great country, India, from what you learned in the U.S.. No reason to bad mouth each other. I do not see how Vishnu would approve of this behavior when he/she would want to help all?

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January 25, 2017 at 9:59 am, IndianWhoSeestruth said:

And wait till his wife starts working in this industry as well. I am seriously waiting for the day when these jobs become redundant

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January 29, 2017 at 3:28 pm, John said:

I am an indiam immigrant and i agree with a many peoples view here.
many indians do work hard to make themselves as qualified and highly skilled workers and they still go thru lot of hurdles to make survical as immigrant. But at the same time the system is been misused a lot by not so talented group of people which will make even the honest people as victims themselves.
Any country would welcome the global talent pool and when given the opportunity this should not be misused in any way.

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February 01, 2017 at 12:54 pm, Lili said:

I agree the H-1B program needs to be reformed. I have a MSc. With 16 yrs of experience in healthcare and i am going to school for a health data science certificate. I stopped looking for an analyst position because there are no entry level jobs. The companies claim there is a shortage in healthcare simply because they do not want to help cross train US citizens which is what they should be doing instead of trying to bring in more H-1B visas to work in a setting that they know nothing about! The Indian prime minister advices Trump to invest in training US citizens, well this is what he is trying to do by forcing companies to hire home based talent. I would be fine taking a pay cut but no one is willing to train me, so what is wrong with this picture?

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November 05, 2017 at 9:39 pm, Janice said:

It is called Corporate Greed!!! They can careless about Americans and will pay less to whomever will take it!

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February 02, 2017 at 9:51 am, jo lo said:

Obama “doubled” H1-B’s by issuing work visas to “spouses of H1-B holders” This needs to be canceled and existing ones pulled.

Having companies bid on H1-B’s by salary would help curb the abuse — however, I can imagine ways for this to be abused as well. That said, the entire H1-B and L-1 visa programs need to be eliminated in their entirety. These policies are a cancer and will metastasize despite any efforts to control them.

Remember, all the tech companies have Democrats in their pockets. That means when the pendulum swings and Dem’s regain power (OR Republicans sell-out – more likely and sooner) whatever is in place will be used to crush American jobs and salaries again.

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February 05, 2017 at 5:22 am, Ron said:

If you’re going to be sold out to the lowest bidder, why get the degree?? The employers are causing their own “shortage” of talent.

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February 06, 2017 at 5:22 pm, amy gen said:

you snatched this country from one set of Indians. now it would go to another. stay educated and competitive and stop whining.

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November 05, 2017 at 9:35 pm, J said:

I can see that you don’t see how it has affected you, but it has!! What else are you willing to give up perhaps another industry? East Indian and other have took over American IT industry?

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February 07, 2017 at 3:59 am, Don said:

just don”t yell at me….i came here on a H1b visa and got my green card after working in a underserved area ( small village in Wisconsin). As a medical doctor you can apply to change your status -from H1b to GC – after serving 4-5 years in a underserved areas, places where no US doctors will go. I’m not from India or some other “hot zone” , but in the medical field you have to follow some steps before being considered to adjust your residency status.

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March 16, 2017 at 3:41 am, healey said:

there are many US companies in India, If India asks them to shut off and call all Indian visa holders back to India, America will see an economic crisis, so think before what we Americans are asking here.

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March 26, 2017 at 12:16 pm, Me said:

To those who say these are private companies and it’s unconstitutional to dictate how they hire….these are VISA programs. The government dictates the program and uses our tax dollars to do so. You are all for the government increase the cap but whine when they want to lower it.

H1b visa holders get all the SS tax they paid back when they return home. If an American leaves the country for a job they don’t get tge same. H1b visa holders are also not subjected to the same level of scrutjny of their resumes. Further companies get tax incentives for going overseas and H1bs often stay and get green cards.

To those waving the Constitution aroind–stop being hypocritical. If privatt companies want to do this and say it’s a free country then do so without government assistance

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April 04, 2017 at 10:02 am, Sheera said:

Indian born ,Have been working in USA as a US Citizen for past 6 years in IT
Too much discrimination against us citizens
Most of the companies have indians working in the IT department.
They would rather hire a Fresh indian with a low pay with some experience then a US Citizen, I have been to many face to face interviews. but sometimes don`t get a feedback or email at all, and then find out from others they hire there own friends and families on H1B or OPT.
Companies like QSSI. Mantech. Maricom CSC

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April 04, 2017 at 10:05 am, Shiv Ram said:

I totally agree with Sheera
I had the same experience

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November 01, 2017 at 1:14 pm, Angie said:

Yes it’s about time that someone will stand for Americans.
Kill that [expletive] these [expletive] to our society .when they are here they think they own [expletive] these people are nothing but depending the good nature of Americans .wake up Americans .l hated these [expletive] coming here and eat our food and get housing authority right away. It’s a [expletive]

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November 05, 2017 at 8:11 pm, Janice G said:

The East Indian have dominated the IT industry long enough. They need to go back to their country. Corporations who want to keep the IT industry overseas should just take their company overseas as well, they are not an American company to me. I have been a software programmer for over 15 years and I have seen the changes;they are not good for the American IT industry. Last couple of contracts, I was not able to do my work by getting into the database or check-out code from the repository without having to make change just to run it correctly. American IT industries have been a mad-house!!! Now, the East Indian are making it difficult for Americans to get into the industry ridiculous interview questions, because their contracts are being threatened. I am tired of this as well. Go back home!

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November 05, 2017 at 9:27 pm, Janice said:

The East Indian have dominated the IT industry long enough. They need to go back to their country. Corporations who want to keep the IT industry overseas should just take their company overseas as well, they are not an American company to me. I have been a software programmer for over 15 years and I have seen the changes and they are not good for the American IT industry. Last couple of contracts, I was not able to do my work by getting into the database or check-out code from the repository without having to make change just to run it correctly. American IT industries have been a mad-house!!! Now, the East Indian are making it difficult for Americans to get into the industry because their contracts are being threatened. I am tired of this as well. Go back home!

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