Dice News Update: Companies Add Jobs – Get Ready to Sprint

Companies are adding jobs. Are you ready? In New England, executives say they just can’t find good tech people… And the federal government is defining the kinds of jobs that can – and can’t – be outsourced.

See last week’s update here.

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14 Responses to “Dice News Update: Companies Add Jobs – Get Ready to Sprint”

April 15, 2010 at 6:35 am, CH Winston said:

Andriy,

If you are a “freshly certified” programmer, you are a perfect example why companies choose experience over a certificate. It doesn’t take much to get a certificate. You can buy any test-prep book from the nearest book store, study for a month and take the test. If you have half of a brain, you might get the necessary 75-80% to pass.

Companies choose experienced workers so that they can have employees who have the soft skills that go along with a position. It doesn’t take much for people to learn a new language and there is far more to being a good programmer than being able to throw C# syntax around.

Your broken English is a perfect example of why outsourcing is often so detrimental to critical software projects. There is nothing like trying to explain simple instructions that are clearly documented to someone that barely understands the language they are written in; I don’t mean that in a good way.

That being said, yes many newly-minted developers have many good qualities. They can offer a fresh perspective and prove to be very innovative. I do believe that younger, less experienced developers deserve a chance to prove themselves but, to say a certificate can replace 5-6 years of experience is a bit extreme.

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April 15, 2010 at 6:35 am, CH Winston said:

Andriy,

If you are a “freshly certified” programmer, you are a perfect example why companies choose experience over a certificate. It doesn’t take much to get a certificate. You can buy any test-prep book from the nearest book store, study for a month and take the test. If you have half of a brain, you might get the necessary 75-80% to pass.

Companies choose experienced workers so that they can have employees who have the soft skills that go along with a position. It doesn’t take much for people to learn a new language and there is far more to being a good programmer than being able to throw C# syntax around.

Your broken English is a perfect example of why outsourcing is often so detrimental to critical software projects. There is nothing like trying to explain simple instructions that are clearly documented to someone that barely understands the language they are written in; I don’t mean that in a good way.

That being said, yes many newly-minted developers have many good qualities. They can offer a fresh perspective and prove to be very innovative. I do believe that younger, less experienced developers deserve a chance to prove themselves but, to say a certificate can replace 5-6 years of experience is a bit extreme.

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April 15, 2010 at 7:55 am, Jim said:

From my past experience, finding good tech people does not mean you have to go overseas. This simply provides cheaper labor and resource volume. I’ve dealt with outsourcing projects for several years with several companies, and the quality of work is just not any better. In fact, unless it’s canned project categories, the requirements are very often misinterpreted, and fail on the delivery.

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April 15, 2010 at 7:55 am, Jim said:

From my past experience, finding good tech people does not mean you have to go overseas. This simply provides cheaper labor and resource volume. I’ve dealt with outsourcing projects for several years with several companies, and the quality of work is just not any better. In fact, unless it’s canned project categories, the requirements are very often misinterpreted, and fail on the delivery.

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April 15, 2010 at 9:32 am, Andriy said:

Nice video.
Especially I when say “some company have trouble with good programmers” , this is becouse they hire only with 5-9 year experience no fresh certified progragrammer, another problem company not hire directly new programmer to see if they can do job well. Agency do not care about your knowledge or certification in some technology, they care only about your expirience which usually bring a lot of trouble to company. Fresh programmer will loking for a way to solve problem, expirienced usually do the way what they only know, which is not always right. Today when Microsoft release VS2010 how many years experience you need to work with VS2010 or .NET 4.0? 5 or 6 years? Why company not interesting to hire certified proffessional? Certificat current only few year this means programmer need upgrade his knowledge.

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April 15, 2010 at 9:32 am, Andriy said:

Nice video.
Especially I when say “some company have trouble with good programmers” , this is becouse they hire only with 5-9 year experience no fresh certified progragrammer, another problem company not hire directly new programmer to see if they can do job well. Agency do not care about your knowledge or certification in some technology, they care only about your expirience which usually bring a lot of trouble to company. Fresh programmer will loking for a way to solve problem, expirienced usually do the way what they only know, which is not always right. Today when Microsoft release VS2010 how many years experience you need to work with VS2010 or .NET 4.0? 5 or 6 years? Why company not interesting to hire certified proffessional? Certificat current only few year this means programmer need upgrade his knowledge.

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April 15, 2010 at 11:34 am, Skand said:

I believe that its only cheaper options that companies look for and thats why they outsource! Savings far surpass the bad effects of intial failure rate.

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April 15, 2010 at 11:34 am, Skand said:

I believe that its only cheaper options that companies look for and thats why they outsource! Savings far surpass the bad effects of intial failure rate.

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April 17, 2010 at 12:39 am, Greg Opp said:

If executives in New England are having trouble finding good technical talent, it’s either because they are not looking or they will settle for nothing less than a perfect match to a job description listing 20 requirements.

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April 17, 2010 at 12:39 am, Greg Opp said:

If executives in New England are having trouble finding good technical talent, it’s either because they are not looking or they will settle for nothing less than a perfect match to a job description listing 20 requirements.

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May 17, 2010 at 1:28 am, Jeff Kendall said:

Thank you, CH Wilson for your comments. Well put. I agree also with Greg about companies’ requirements.

I’ve seen job reqs that encompass many fields (networking, DBA, Windows Admin, and more). It’s unlikely that you’re going to find a person skilled in a wide variety of categories. And they probably don’t want to pay superman much if he happens to apply.

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May 17, 2010 at 1:28 am, Jeff Kendall said:

Thank you, CH Wilson for your comments. Well put. I agree also with Greg about companies’ requirements.

I’ve seen job reqs that encompass many fields (networking, DBA, Windows Admin, and more). It’s unlikely that you’re going to find a person skilled in a wide variety of categories. And they probably don’t want to pay superman much if he happens to apply.

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